People are very scared of 4x weaknesses and will write off any new pokemon based on that, like some of the most powerful pokemon previously don't have them.
Flip Turn is a fantastic move, and Vaporeon is likely one of its best user. Has bulk that is unrivaled and is fast as hell.
I mean, if people think Lando-I might be balanced, sure why the hell not. 252 Atk Choice Band Urshifu Wicked Blow vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Slowbro on a critical hit: 398-470 (101 - 119.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 Atk Choice Band Urshifu Wicked Blow vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tangrowth on a critical hit: 183-216 (45.2 - 53.4%) -- 34.8% chance to …
I wonder if we will see a shift in defensive structures to counteract this. Swivel 'em around in a circular motion. Regenerator also helps it with keeping it naturally healthy too. Throw in Wild Charge for coverage and Howl / psych Up for boosting and not much will be able to stand up to it unless you have a fast status spreader. Typing leaves it weak to Ground, Fire, and Fighting, while without the same good resistances Steel has to Flying, Psychic, and Fairy.
Read about Urshifu (Single Strike Style) in Pokemon Sword and Shield: Isle of Armor!
Grab your balls.
In the OU meta there's quite a few things it has to break through to really succeed. Agility and Work Up/Howl are its best options. Press J to jump to the feed.
It may not have swords dance.....bit it doesn't need it it can set up on anything with work up or howl. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
and turns resting are turns your foe can use to boost up.
They're gonna ban so many mons this season that they will probably ban basculin by accident. With the Island of Armor finally being released, you all are free to start discussing the new OU metagame here!
Smogon University. Want to contribute? Anyone know what the full list of the version exclusives are for Crown Tundra? Very few mons can switch in on it, especially if it has a boost. Maybe Zamazenta-Crowned could serve in a similar core to replace Mega Aggron. VGC is not a friendly meta to Single Strike.
Volcarona missing HP Ground makes it easier to counter this, too.
It's main downside is not holding a item......but neither could megas. Florges and Salamence supported Mega Aggron with Wish support.
Two very different metas.Why is smogon so different?
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It's movepool is decent enough, with tools like Haze, Wish, Heal Bell and Toxic, but Flip Turn really breathes new life into this. This may lead to it running absolute min speed to increase that opportunity. Absolutely not. I want you to grab your nuts.
It's pool of coverage options is a bit shallow, but good. Combine that with 92/145/145 defenses that comes with a FREE +1 boost to Defense, and you end up with a fast physical menace that is a pain in the ass to revenge kill. Of course, it has trouble breaking through a lot of Pokemon and could be crippled from their, and it also is unable to break past its 128 Speed Tier and would be really threatened by faster status spreaders like Dragapult. Drop it here on Stunfisk! JavaScript is disabled.
water is better, as it doesnt have that nasty 4x weakness to fairy, which is HEAVILY prominent, and the multi hit aspect of the move breaks sash/sturdy to still get OHKOs.
but with it it is immune to trick and highly resists Knock Off. Water Absorb also is the only way of stopping other Flip Turns, and you get some healing out of it. Surging Strikes in particular can be used as Waterfall with 5 less BP and a Critical Hit always whereas you can use a number of common Fighting type Pokemon while customizing their stats/typing to fit Urshifu-Rapid-Strike in a pinch. Smogon is the largest competitive Pokemon community on the internet. © 2020 CBS Interactive Inc. All rights reserved. This thing is an offensive monster in OU. I mean it would be identical to Silvally and it's various formes in how it would work, so it doesn't seem that complex a ban (or at least, not anymore complex then what is already in use. Enjoy!
In fact it feasts on Fairies with Behemoth Bash. Not to mention that with rest it will be crazy to take down.
+2 252 SpA Life Orb Alakazam Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Aegislash-Shield: 265-315 (81.7 - 97.2%) -- 25% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock.
In Gen 6 UU back when Salamence was UU in Gen 6 I did well using a core of Mega Aggron, Florges, and Salamence.
With the amount of good faries/flyings/psychics/fires returning I think it's worth giving it a shot in OU even though I expect it to be banned quickly (and rightly so). Don't give up on my man/woman, Alakazam. Would it be balanced? Worth noting as well that Magearna gets Agility, which is better on non-Stored Power/Iron Head sets for PP and less Foul Play damage. Zamazenta regular would stay in Ubers. Base 135 attack, base 128 speed, and those defenses? With support for Wi-fi and simulator battles, Smogon has something for everyone!
Hits as hard as garchomp.
I also don't see how Zama would be good on stall. (Or Sash Counter Alakazam).
There's a lot that holds it back, however, which is why this discussion even exists. [Please excuse our look during the redesign :)], -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------, https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8ou-1134679679. Can serve as a crazy fast screen setter with enough bulk to actually do it repeatedly but can't hold light clay to extend it.
I would like to post my preliminary thoughts on the newly introduced Pokemon. Take a moment to read the Introduction to Smogon for a run-down on everything Smogon. I find Magnezone underwhelming thus far as it had to run a very particular set to trap all the right things, which is still situationally based.
Being shit in ubers and being shit in OU are two completely different worlds. It can still OHKO Aegislash and Mandibuzz with LO +2 Shadow Ball and Dazzling Gleam respectively. It's item is also locked to it and thus can't be removed or replaced, which is massive for a metagame dominated by Trick/Knock Off. Zeraora will be taking a big hit in viability due to the aforementioned Grasses giving it an actual counter or two (finally) (mandatory plug to check out my video on the, I had high hopes for Skarmory coming in (even including it in my.
Weak to some common offensive types in fire, ground, and fighting.
Do they still impose arbitrary move restrictions and rules and that causes the water one to drop? Without the 100% crit, protection breaking moves, they are worse than Keldeo and Terrakion, who are UU. It is worth noting that Zamazenta-Crowned doesn't get access to an item (by virtue of having to run the Rusted Shield), so its 130 attack isn't as intimidating as it looks on paper. I want you to take a handful, and just grab your nuts real quick. That's for Smogon but if someone is interested in ranked then Water Urshifu is superior.
Note that Urshifu-Rapid-Strike is not in the calculator yet, but it is very easy to tinker with existing Pokemon to fit the parameters of Urshifu-Rapid-Strike if you need to do this during games with it. Tangrowth and Amoonguss are both going to be solid defensive options in the metagame, but I expect them to start slower than some other, more offensive options for the same reasons as Slowbro listed above. My guess it would have only been UU at best.
I'll try to keep it updated as we get more information. Dracovish/Dracozolt : … Urshifu is likely going to be in OU, and breaking Protect is pretty good anti-stall, especially with Single-Strike because of the tanks and stall monsters resisting Water. Flip Turn can see usage on Keldeo, seizing momentum from Toxapex or Amoonguss when used in conjunction with something like Alakazam, or Primarina, who may not want to lock into Psychic with a Choice Specs variant. Get to know Urshifu's Stats, Type, Nature, Weakness, in Sword Shield!
I'm excited to try Vaporeon.
Yeah i dont think that thing will stay in ou. No recovery means save rest means it will be a bit reliant on team mates to function.
Wicked Blow in particular can be used as Crunch with a Critical Hit always whereas you can use a number of common Fighting type Pokemon while customizing their stats/typing to fit Urshifu in a pinch. Here are the newly introduced Pokemon that are relevant to this metagame. How do you guys think HO teams will perform in the new meta?
I think the jury is still out on both of them. +1 252 Atk Life Orb Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Zen Headbutt vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Toxapex: 182-216 (59.8 - 71%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery.
For now, I'm listing everything regardless of viability to help everyone get situation with what's available now. Though there's currently no good Dragon type either unfortunately. Mind you this is only for Zamazenta-Crowned so it can only hold the Rusted Shield. Urshifu Single-Strike form's signature move is Wicked Blow. Kommo-O, Conkeldurr, Terrakion, and Hawlucha are now met with Spikes Heracross, Close Combat Mienshao, Urshifu, Urshifu-Rapid-Strike, and even Poliwrath, who can abuse Rain and many new moves it obtained. It will be interesting to see how much practical impact this move has in the metagame.
Remember when people here mostly thought Water Urishifu was better than Dark. ), it would be absolutely broken. Teleport Slowbro is going to be a lot better once a bit of a balance is formed in the metagame.
Forums. As a Steel-type, it's pretty miserable.
It's not weak to Fairy, Flying, or Psychic.
As long as Blaziken, Landorus-I, Naganadel, Lele, Koko, Kyurem-B, Pheromosa, Genesect, and Zygarde are in the tier, though, I doubt stall will be even remotely viable.
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