A sword across his gut healed slower than every slash and stab Wolverine and X-23 gave X-24 combined. I have already established that Wolverine can't heal as well on his own without significant foreign objects first being removed. How do we know that after the children left, X-24 didn't revive and simply wander the woods aimlessly for the next 60 years or so with no recollection of who he was? It isn't what was clearly demonstrated though. Frankly, it's exhausting. Wolverine had forgotten everything about himself because of them. Acrobatic yes, faster is a matter of debate. The skilled fighters in these movies have tuned up Wolverine with ease. My eyes are rolling so hard, they might just spin out of their sockets. You can't ignore feats that you don't like for feats that you do like. 5 out of 5 stars (24) 24 reviews $ 15.00 FREE shipping Favorite Add to ... Wolverine vs. Sabretooth t-shirt, wolverine shirt, x-men, marvel comics shirt FunnyTeesNStuff. See a doctor or go read his wiki page because you're blind or like some fake fan who missed a few entries on the webpage, X-24 is not stronger than Sabretooth and its blatantly obvious why and it's a shame I have to tell you... X-24 is a Poor Man's Wolverine, Wolverine also has super strength (Incase you didn't know that), Sabretooth was always portrayed as being stronger and the movies show that off all the time like when he used a tree as a baseball bat to send Logan flying 20 feet. Also, X-24 could do the same thing, if he was so inclined. Sabretooth almost BFRs Wolverine once, then he succeeds on the second attempt. The point is that he should have healed on his own because by the time they recovered him it was morning where as he got jabbed at night. They heal pretty fast, so I doubt that'll be a real problem. Meaning we get to use feats from X1? He had been pinned, not for a while, but for enough time for it to be noticeable. Sabretooth didn't loose his head there, he won't loose it against X-24. This is cherry-picking. Each attack, even when Logan blocked it had him tumbling backwards. On the other hand, Creed does have experience fighting someone with Logan's claws... someone far less skilled with them, and with no knowledge of Sabretooth. It eclipses the log/bat feat by a wide margin. Even in that gif you posted, Wolverine intentionally met Creed's hand in the air (which caught him by surprise), because he knew his moves. He can get knocked out by a truck ramming him full speed with dozens of tons of energy behind it and then getting shot a couple of times with a shotgun (3,100 Ft lb impact) but even that he eventually just got up from. Laura was also much faster than him. You mean stall. Wolverine also has super strength (Incase you didn't know that). Neither has adamantium for this battle. Sabes isn't sloppy enough to get his head chopped off, shown in all of his fights against superior opponents. This is composite Sabretooth yes? Both actions would be the same, right? It's not like they'll go down in one stroke. WOLVERINE. Wolverine himself, the progenitor of X-24, has proven this already. The only instance I can recall is from the Wolverine where he is shot by multiple poisoned arrows. They pass right through the tissue of both fighters here. Hell just Logan blocking and evading Sabretooth twice in x-1 is more of a display of skill that x-24 has ever shown in Logan (2017). The unskilled fool was getting schooled by an old Wolverine in the beginning of both their fights and when ever X takes damage he makes no attempt to counter, just takes the hits then attacks when the assaulter stops. been fighting against for a vast majority of his life (Sabretooth Another testament to how x-24 isn't all that fast since Logan, with a limp and decent amount of injuries still dodges x24s attacks. after watching above video where he only dodged a single hit in the whole movie and gets tagged by a weaker, slower, older Logan. The movie established that the doctor has inserted himself as X-24's 'father figure'. In The Wolverine, the little robot was preventing his healing factor from dealing with damage elsewhere in his body. X-24 barely got to his feet when Logan planted a door in his face. How blind I've been. Is he also just a dumb animal? And it took him a few minutes to heal. You think injuries that severe, capable only of healing at a human rate would not immediately cause a PA to call an EMT to take him to the emergency room? The point was that Wolverine's healing factor did not heal a decidedly superficial wound in seconds. Regardless, X-24's slashes can't be blocked or tanked. There is literally nothing obstructing his healing. X-24 freed himself by slashing the door and getting a bit of leverage in, but by straight up overpowering him. Me calling him a dumb animal doesn't mean he's not good at what he does, it just means that against two soldiers who have had decades of teamwork and can't be killed by brute, blunt force, X-24 may have a good chance of losing by being in some way outsmarted or outmatched in numbers. He was in his prime probably somewhere around the Civil War as that would have been before the regen had to start keeping him alive from old age. The two brothers could dance around him for a fair while, and eventually wear down his slower healing factor. Had he not been a beast, he wouldn't have engaged with the asshole farmers and would have just left with laura, nor would he have slaughtered the entire family that hosted Logan and the others. Was he sizing Logan up again? Who's going to give first? We simply don't know anything post head shot. Wolverine did heal incredibly quickly in The Last Stand. In fact, the adamantium should have made Logan slower, as it would have weighed him down more. Does it really seem that far fetched that a Logan and Victor in their prime could tag team against an enemy who fights primarily with brute force (albite well). I dare you. Sure, I agree with that assessment. You are also completely assuming that the buckshot pellets were rattling around x-24's brain even though we never actually see that. You think the healing factor will push the truck out of the way, push X-24 off the hooks, and then heal immediately? He simply knocked Logan off balance and then kicked Logan away. We have already determined that throwing does nothing to a Wolverine in his prime, why would it do anything to X-24, who is physically superior? She can be durable, yes. Sabretooth didn't loose his head there, he won't loose it against X-24. Sure, they heal, but a temporary death here is still a loss. Again why is this a valid comparison when she would be faster than Sabretooth and Wolverine as well? Or you mean to tell me that x-24 > "young" adamantium Logan? Also Logan would have won outright lol? That is impressive given that x-24 later lifts a truck off himself by the end of the movie. He didn't wreck Wolverine. A good friend of his has just been murdered so I'd assume that had something to do with it, and by the time he realized he was going to lose what was he going to do? However, you are acting like ONLY an animal can slash back. In the beginning, yeah while they were kinda getting their asses kicked, they managed to get the hang of it in terms of H2H through trial and error (thanks to their healing factors), after which they started solid hits in. In fact, I agree that Creed would have lost to an Adamantium Wolvie, but not by that much. Wasn't the arrow scene after he removed the bot? Sabretooth's jobbing scenes in origins are also nullified and do not count as they are stupid PIS moments to move along the story. Why not? X-24 isn't particularly fast, could have been that it took a second for him to register a threat. They can't really do more than what they have shown capable of doing. Should've said it better: Wolverine got in no good hits. We saw in the final act how good their synergy was; that is a factor in a fight. You don't need skill to beat either of these guys. He was dealing with buckshot in the brain. This breakdown meants nothing, so I would appreciate if you can drop the whole "I am so smart, learn to read idiot" which seems rather unnecessary and petty. Like how does some untrained animal deal with two veteran fighters. He almost had his head cut off at the conclusion of the Liberty Island fight. Furthermore, in days of future past, wolverine (while having bone claws), soaks up more than a dozen bullets that he just pops out of his body when he goes back in time. Didn't wolverine take two shots to the head in Origins? x-24 is basically prime Logan physically but his inferior in both skill. That was the only time he got solid hits in. Victor and Wolverine have already fought a much faster and more powerful opponent (barakapoool). What would have healed in a matter of seconds couldn't even be healed in a day, and without the green goop he may have even eventually died or at the very least been incapacitated for a long time. I included it in this post as well. X-24 only has to connect with his hits. You are basing this on less than 5 minutes of total camera time. You don't think that was at all due to manipulation? And Logan was not in his prime in X-MEN Origins:Wolverine. Additionally, both of these characters can be killed by blunt force. There wasn't a noticeable difference in the movies though. Like I said, the Pg-13 way, he got in all of the good hits and his throws were effective. The idea of an evil doppelganger is pure comic book shenanigans that some might see as clashing against the tone and… Anyways, wolverine's healing factor wasn't functioning, seeing as how the following hospital scene shows intense claw marks on his stomach that haven't even begun to heal. Logan may have gotten his ass kicked, but given his condition it makes sense that he'd be overwhelmed by X-24s raw power. I have provided more than enough evidence. Just further adds to how strong Logan is in general. Recall that X-24 needed a serum to supercharge his healing factor. You mean... like he almost did in the actual fight? You have some explaining to do though. Wolverine beat him because bone claws are a pretty crappy weapon against Adamantium. Why else would he stay dead after the adamantium shot? Wolverine's skull is unbreakable, it was probably the impact to the brain that managed to do that damage and knock logan out in X2. Hard to do when you are limping . We saw that despite his skill advantages against a vastly pre-prime Logan he was still getting tagged, and with X-24's claws and strength that's all he needs to do to win. All his feats count. @erik_soong: Not even, you are just stupid. X-24 freed himself by slashing the door and getting a bit of leverage in, but by straight up overpowering him. At best, Wolverine's minor healing factor was keeping him from needing intensive care, but that's about it. I have already proven how a single bullet on the SCALP took more than mere seconds with Wolverine. He threw wolverine of the plantation and then started digging Victor into the concrete with his beams. Are you stupid? You mean that Sabretooth was also losing badly against Deadpool? $3.95 previous price $3.95 + $4.99 shipping. You have an understanding of this fight that is completely divorced from reality. The last stand is a more recent portrayal than X2, not by far, but it is. This likely indicates that he was "measuring" Logan up. Except both Logan and Sabertooth are as fast as x-24, and are a lot smarter too, and have fought multiple wars with one another, all factors you chose to ignore. Well, when the two trained fighters fight like animals themselves, they are not really offering much in the way of competition to the animal, now are they? Well I don't know what happens behind the scenes or if X-24 does indeed write poetry in his free time, so what else am I to base my opinion on? Sabretooth then grabs Wolverine and was then kicked in the face, which Sabretooth answers by again, throwing Wolverine about 6 feet from him. He knows how to strike, we got to see him do that as well. Says who? Let me elaborate, that's bad communication on my part. Stalled. He wasn't thrown in a way that would harm even someone without adamantium save for the BFR. A sword across his gut healed slower than every slash and stab Wolverine and X-23 gave X-24 combined. He had been pinned, not for a while, but for enough time for it to be noticeable. You could argue that if you wanted to push a certain narrative. See above for examples. I've boxed, foot work is just as essential as what your upper body does. They took out x-11 in x men origins and x-24 is a kind of unskilled brute , he get clowned. He didn't seem much stronger than old Logan. Prove that the bullet which blew apart his head was the same as the one which hit Logan. And again, I'm not saying X-24 can't heal, it definitely can and well too. Aside from the fact that the pellets in X-24's brain are radically more damaging than a bullet to the scalp or a mini robot sitting in his chest not doing any actual damage to him (if it was, he would have been aware that something was inside him by virtue of it hurting him). You say I am cherry picking but I am simply stating that future (any future) portrayals show him taking head truama and standing his ground a lot easier. there's nothing stopping from creed just choke hold him while Logan rips his eyes out. Keep in mind that X-24 is fighting and over exhausted wolverine who can barely stand, and gets still dumped over because of his own rage and stupidity. You're getting to hung up on the "dumb animal" comment. Wolverine fights blunt too, but not quite as much. If this fight is an indicator of anything, it is that Wolverine really let himself go relative to 1985 and this was the result; a sloppy, unskilled fight where a guy who does little more than throw him around causes him trouble. Except we see wolverine pop small foreign objects out before, whereas x24 hasn't been able to do that. X-24 even seemed to be allowing some of them to see what Wolverine was capable of. But even if we take these feats, we have Wolverine suffer some attacks that take quite a while to heal from. How can he do that when he has no hands or a head? Who will win in a fight between X-24 and Sabretooth? It is a logical fallacy and by using it, you once against invalidate your own argument. X-24 isn't sizing wolverine up, he hasn't demonstrated the intelligence to be able to do that. But you aren't doing that. Did you read my summary, strike count, or even the video? Is Sabretooth somehow immune to decapitation? Prove that X-24's healing doesn't work properly. Strength does not seem to be strongly in Sabretooth's favor, if at all. You are assuming because there is no evidence against your argument (I.E. Powers and Abilitie. Wolverine Vs Sabretooth Marvel Comics Poster by Andy Adam Kubert. After Logan, Xavier, and Laura escape the Reavers at the hotel, Rice decides to send X-24 after them. And yeah, and when you grunt and roar and slash your way to victory, I will call you an animal. Sabretooth is one of the most sadistic and imposing villains in the Marvel Universe. Nice try though. Also, I rewatched the scene, i'll give you that, but If x-24 is a efficient and fast as you say he is, it wouldn't have been a problem. No one in this fight has that assortment of powers. hence my assumption that his healing factor can be overwhelmed even though it functions well with most fatal injurious. The only question relevant to the conversation is can the team work together effectively to enable one of them to put a claw through X-24's eye, before X-24 does the same or worse to both members of the team. If so, that Sabretooth already was wrecking adamantium Wolverine. Wolverine's skull is unbreakable, it was probably the impact to the brain that managed to do that damage and knock logan out in X2. I think you are misunderstanding what I am saying. X-24 literally swat away Logan's strikes and intercepted them with his own. Why is X-24 just going to stand there and let them attack him? On the other hand, Creed does have experience fighting someone with Logan's claws... someone far less skilled with them, and with no knowledge of Sabretooth. In the Wolverine (also by Mangold), Logan was overpowering over 30+ Ninjas, eventhrough he was poisoned and they had to poison him a second time to win (and they actually didn't win considering that Logan passed out before they managed to overpower him). He's tough and he goes for the kill. Just further adds to how strong Logan is in general. Victor Creed was born in the mid-late 1820s in what would later be known as the Northwest Territories of Canada Or is it because he wasn't writing poetry while cutting people up? All that was said was that his rage was manufactured. Except maybe the fact that X-24 won't just sit there, slumped up against a wall like a puppet with its strings cut. First, Wolverine surprise attacked him. That is before Barakapool decided to teleport away and fire lazers, but that's beside the point. And he was definintely faster than wolverine, interception a hit or two doesn't change that he was delivering some hits wolverine didn't even see coming. 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